tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post1114006508334285435..comments2023-10-30T06:13:34.382-04:00Comments on Supervisor Feiner: BUDGET MEETINGS, OUTREACH SCHEDULEDPaul Feinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17087805120754057844noreply@blogger.comBlogger185125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-83956700797996809342008-11-27T19:30:00.000-05:002008-11-27T19:30:00.000-05:00All CSEA jobs should be outsourced. They are not n...All CSEA jobs should be outsourced. They are not necessary. This could save a lot of money.Especially with benefits.<BR/>CSEA should be done.........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-19508399073024825312008-10-18T21:24:00.000-04:002008-10-18T21:24:00.000-04:00The lady that was sitting in at the budget hearing...The lady that was sitting in at the budget hearings is Whitehead the one that is under investigation for no show jobs to fellons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-60451483983771251272008-10-18T15:05:00.000-04:002008-10-18T15:05:00.000-04:00Who was the lady giving the responses to the cent...Who was the lady giving the responses to the center's budget hearings at the work session?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-25018660588586164822008-10-18T10:42:00.000-04:002008-10-18T10:42:00.000-04:00SHAME ON WHITEHEAD How dare you go around ...SHAME ON WHITEHEAD<BR/> <BR/> How dare you go around saying they "gave" the position to William Carter! Are you kidding us? Dr Carter, in the most extreme contrast possible to you, got the job based on merit, qualifications, and established a work related track record. You on the other hand received a gift. You deserve credit for one thing and one thing only, selling a bill of goods to Sonia Brown. Don't feel too bad Sonia, she's fooled many others before you. While many dedicated staff worked hard at their jobs, you gave Sonia a steady stream of lies which misrepresented your limited abilities. You're doing the same now to Dr Carter.<BR/> Ok, fast talkin' got you the job, but then you BLEW IT! Taxpayers had to settle for an under qualified person placed in her FIRST leadership position at the Center. However then you introduced your personal problems to the Center. You dragged the whole Department in your mud. Why should Teddy's name be tarnished because you felt a need to hand out no show jobs? Many of our young men need jobs and are willing to work hard when they receive an opportunity. But no, you had to hand over paychecks to felons! Did you really think you could trust them based on their past history? Everyone knows they have been milking you for years.<BR/> The Whitehead freebies: $10,000 for a one day trip to Playland; Free all you could eat BBQ at Family Day (Imagine doing that at Veteran's Park?); Full staffing when the building was closed to programs in September. You're very generous with Taxpaper's money!<BR/> You could have been Deputy. You could have done something that would have made a name for yourself. You could have retired with honor and respect. You could have respected Paul and Sonia. You decided to embarrass the Town Council, the Center, your Church, and the Community, by your shady wrong doings. Now the place is under police investigation because of you.<BR/> Hay Girlfriend, they had a party for Hopeton and William, they ain't gunna have nothin' for you except scorn. Everyone will look back at your time as temporary Head as the worst chapter in the Center's history. <BR/> The only reason you're still on payroll is due to Paul's charity.<BR/> RESIGN NOW!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-67287152341692265102008-10-18T08:30:00.000-04:002008-10-18T08:30:00.000-04:00Did the chief mention the money owed by the Housin...Did the chief mention the money owed by the Housing Authority.<BR/>I did not hear this mentioned at all at the work session.<BR/>Was the police protection given back to them for free??????<BR/>The money owed is over one half milion dollars.<BR/>Paul this too will be one of your freebees given to the so called poor people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-86550788481985395342008-10-17T11:28:00.000-04:002008-10-17T11:28:00.000-04:00The fact that even Mr. Rosenberg admits that Green...The fact that even Mr. Rosenberg admits that Greenburgh's villages today have a significant number of African American residents and an even more significant number of Latino residents makes it even more outrageously unfair that the villages won't pay a nickle for any of the millions of dollars of social services that the town provides to its economically disadvantaged residents townwide (mainly through the TDYCC), all at the expense of the town's unincorporated area residents -- a discriminatory practice which IS a result of the town's racist past when the town's village residents wouldn't pay for any services for the town's African American population (the town's library being another case in point).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-91352140197871633522008-10-17T09:57:00.000-04:002008-10-17T09:57:00.000-04:00Dear Mr. Anonymous 9:01 A.M.I don't like to be put...Dear Mr. Anonymous 9:01 A.M.<BR/><BR/>I don't like to be put into the position into which you and some of your think-alikes are trying to put me -- that is, arguing for racial discrimination. The problem is that your selective facts don't make a case for the point that you are pushing.<BR/><BR/>As far as I have seen, the TOV is not "overwhelmingly non-white" as you say. Fairview is overwhelmingly African-American. I don't have the impression that the other sections in the unincorporated area have significant African-American presence. I gather that the villages have a largely white population, although some of the villages have a significant number of African-American residents, and an even more significant number of Latino residents.<BR/><BR/>What does that have to do with the "efficiency" argument that the poster advanced -- i.e., one central police department and one central DPW department is better than having separate such departments in the villages? It has nothing to do with it. Re-integration of services and governance of the villages and the TOV has nothing to do with efficiency of governmental services. If it did have something to do with it, why not create one town out of two or three towns, or eliminate towns altogehter and have a single county government? Do you see the illogic that you get into when you try to address an efficiency argument by advancing points about black and white skin, or saying "social justice."<BR/><BR/>My point is, and was, that if you want to address the waste and inefficiency in the form of government that we have, then you have to address what causes the waste and inefficiency. There are plenty of such causes. Racial or ethnic clusters, and any social implications, are not such causes, at least not in Greenburgh (unincorporated and villages).<BR/><BR/>As I have argued, seemingly in vain as far as some are concerned, is that introducing race into a discussion aboout how to fix governmental efficiency, distracts rather than helps.<BR/><BR/>And now enough. I will not let myself be dragged further into discussions about race in matters of the legal structure determining town-village budgets. So don't take my further silence as evidence that you have made a point by trying to make race the issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-9841746744005017622008-10-17T09:01:00.000-04:002008-10-17T09:01:00.000-04:00Deear Mr. Rosenberg -In your recent posting you re...Deear Mr. Rosenberg -<BR/>In your recent posting you refer to the facts being against another poster - the reference apparently being the discrepancy between the villages and the Town outside in racial composition.<BR/>Are you saying that the villages are not overwhelmingly white? Or that the TOV is not overwhelmingly non-white? <BR/>As you are well aware, property ownership in several of the villages was restricted by deed covenants until well after the Supreme Court of the United States ruled such restrictions illegal. While anyone may now purchase any property, the aftereffects of officially sanctioned and legally enforced segregation remain.<BR/>The continued, artificially constructed barriers, designed to reinforce that now outdated way of life, must be dismantled. Part of that process should be the re-integration of services and governance of the villages and the TOV.<BR/>Efficiency and economy suggest it - true justice demands it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-45493941812907645732008-10-16T15:30:00.000-04:002008-10-16T15:30:00.000-04:00Paul and the board was warned about budget fiscal ...Paul and the board was warned about budget fiscal prolems by Heslop and Paul ignored that warning. Paul admit you are to blame for this financial crisis and do the rite thing by dividing your salary to each department to ease tax payer burdin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-24741376013241843982008-10-16T13:02:00.000-04:002008-10-16T13:02:00.000-04:00Dear Mr. Anonymous 12:29Since you address me by my...Dear Mr. Anonymous 12:29<BR/><BR/>Since you address me by my name, I will address you by your name.<BR/><BR/>If you are an example of what you think is an informed and objective person, you have proven my point.<BR/><BR/>If you think that making an honest observation about what I have seen in almost four years of attending Town Board meetings is an obnoxious statement showing the need for anger management, you have further proven my point. Most of the dialogue on any issue, but certainly on town-village issues, is angry and accusatory. Or read the Grassroots for Greenburgh postings for laughable examples of objectivity. All this is an unfortunate by-product of the poisonous statements and misstatements that have been propagated for a number of years.<BR/><BR/>I admit that every time you, and some others, talk of "white folks in the villages" I do get a bit angry. Charging racism when the facts are against you is a rogue's tactic. Since you bring up McCain (and I had a good laugh at that) I think that your tactic is Palinesque.<BR/><BR/>If you want to cling to your myths, nothing that I or anyone else can say will disabuse you. I certainly will not try. On the other hand, if you want to have a serious conversation, you know where to reach me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-22796246574799391652008-10-16T12:29:00.000-04:002008-10-16T12:29:00.000-04:00Dear Mr. Rosenberg:You and John McCain both seem t...Dear Mr. Rosenberg:<BR/><BR/>You and John McCain both seem to suffer from similar anger management issues. Obnoxious comments from you like there are not many people in unincorporated Greenburgh who are objective and few who are informed makes me think that just the opposite must be true - you just don't agree with them. It's like McCain saying last night that Biden's ideas on Iraq are cockamamie. Do you really think that obnoxious comment of his made me think McCain was right? I think the same can be said for you. <BR/><BR/>I also think you're way off base in dismissing the concern about an alliance between Fairview and the villages. When you said the suggestion was dishonest and despicable, I thought, sure, you white folks in the villages wouldn't want anything to do with Fairview. How dare anybody suggest such a thing? <BR/><BR/>But I think the point the blogger was making was that politicians like Feiner may see a way to reelection year after year by harvesting votes from Fairview, which pays comparatively little in town taxes relative to the rest of unincorporated Greenburgh, but gets a lot of services, and the villages, which likewise pay little in town taxes, and get services that the villages don't have to pay for. <BR/><BR/>Edgemont may have figured this out before the rest of us in unincorporated Greenburgh. But more and more of my neighbors in Hartsdale aren't happy with what we're seeing in town government, and we don't take much comfort knowing that angry guys like you, Mr. Rosenberg, apparently have Feiner's ear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-9886634907883558122008-10-16T11:49:00.000-04:002008-10-16T11:49:00.000-04:00To Anons 9:34 and 10:35 who addressed my posting:F...To Anons 9:34 and 10:35 who addressed my posting:<BR/><BR/>First to Anon 9:34.<BR/><BR/>1. It probably would be cheaper to have one DPW and one Police Department and one Planning Department, etc. Whether it would provide better government for such very local issues is another question and I have no answer for it. Put another way, if there were one DPW for such a large area, would you not have to have substaions? If one Police Department, would you not have top have some local stations? Some real questions have been raised as to where economics and efficiencies bisect, and I don't have the answer. If you look at the SCOBA Report, which so many of you like to dump on, you will notice that we pointed out that the structure of laws was antiquated and we suggested that a comittee of informed and objective people study the structure and make redommendations for changes in the law. I have since found that there are not many people in Greenburgh, especially in unincorporated Greenburgh, who are objective, and few indeed who are informed. I am not trying to insult anyone, but the poison that has been injected into the communication process has had its effect.<BR/><BR/>2. I don't think that I have ever voiced any opposition to Edgemont becoming a village. That isn't my business.<BR/><BR/>3. I think that you are way off base questioning my sense of social justice. Them's fighting words, and I don't think that you should do it by hiding your identity.<BR/><BR/>4. Speaking of social justice, please don't play the race card, as some of the residents of unincorporated have been doing. It spoils whatever logic your other arguments have.<BR/><BR/>Now to Anon 10:35<BR/><BR/>1. The 2000 census (which was based on estimates, of course) may have shown a majority of residents in the villages, but (a) it was eight years ago and (b) residents are not necessarily voters or property-owners, and it is voters and property-owners who count in these matters. Current factual date shows that there are more registered voters in the unincorporated area and the unincorporated area outvotes the villages. I mentioned this earlier only to try to put to rest the demagoguery that the unincorporates area is being ganged up on by the villages, and that is indeed the cry from some of the activists. Call the Board of Elections and verify what I have said. Whatever just cause these activists may have, the "majority village voters" is not one of them. It does not surprise me that when faced with facts you start making excuses such as that there should be more unincorporated area voters because they pay 95% of town taxes. The point that was made is that the villages control (assuming they vote in a bloc, which is silly), and that is not true. So please quit dodging the truth.<BR/><BR/>2. if you think it is unfair for the villages to not pay for parks and the TDYCC because those facilities are available to all, then complain to the Town Board. They are the ones who made them available -- the villages didn't ask for it. And if you bother to check the facts you will find that few village residents have taken advantage of the town's opening of the TDYCC. On the other hand, a large number of people from White Plains and other towns have used the TDYCC. I say this only because you should know the facts before you make unsupportable claims. If you think the system is unfair, complain to your Town Board -- they have the power to change it.<BR/><BR/>3. Your attempt to make yourself a victim by suggesting that there is an alliance between the villages and the Fairview area is dishonest and despicable. No more needs to be said about that.<BR/><BR/>4. Whatever you may think of Paul Feiner, he won last year in both the unincorporated area and the villages. He won everywhere except in Edgemont, where he lost narrowly. I think that your argument about Feiner's election is nothing more than whining.<BR/><BR/>Since the blogs tend to be repetitious, I won't answer any more of them unless thay have something new and relevant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-9253321251329427752008-10-16T10:35:00.000-04:002008-10-16T10:35:00.000-04:00Dear Mr. Rosenberg:You state that Bernstein's cons...Dear Mr. Rosenberg:<BR/><BR/>You state that Bernstein's constitutional arguments include the "false assertion that the villages outnumber the unincorporated area." <BR/><BR/>I'll let Bernstein, the lawyer, deal with the constitutional arguments, but you may want to doublecheck your facts before accusing him of making false statements. <BR/><BR/>According to the 2000 census, the entire town population was 86,764, of whom 44,936 (or roughly 52%) reside in the villages. So the villages do outnumber the unincorporated area.<BR/><BR/>Now you may be right that there are more registered voters in the unincorporated areas; or it may be that more unincorporated area residents vote in town elections. That's not surprising since we pay 95% of the town's taxes and have a lot more at stake that you do Mr. Rosenberg. <BR/><BR/>But there's something truly unfair about a system of local government that allows half the town's population that pays next to nothing in town taxes to elect a town government that can legally charge 95% of the taxes to the other half. And it's especially unfair when some of the town services we pay for (like parks and the social services offered by the community center) are available to all, including village residents like you, Mr. Rosenberg. Village residents have to pay for their own governments, of course, but there's a lot of room for mischief here.<BR/><BR/>Feiner last year ran on a "villages first" platform, and he's working hard to increase services for the Fairview community. That leaves the rest of unincorporated Greenburgh, which had a 21% tax increase this year, and is looking at another such increase this year, holding the bag. <BR/><BR/>An alliance between the villages and Fairview truly outnumbers the rest of us when it comes to election time. That doesn't seem right to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-91259963961016689912008-10-16T09:47:00.000-04:002008-10-16T09:47:00.000-04:00Paul you and the board are to blame for high taxes...Paul you and the board are to blame for high taxes.<BR/>You have stoped all development in Greenburgh that would have helped keep taxes low.<BR/>The whole town board made sure that all large parcels were purchased as parkland which we now we have to pay for maintenance,rather than have the land developed.<BR/>If the properties were developed we would have a good revenue to help the tax base.<BR/>Taxter Ridge should not have ever been considered as a park but as a favor to a dear friend you gave him a big side yard.<BR/>You chased away Home Depot .<BR/>You chased away many developers that wanted to build large homes plus park areas.<BR/>Yes the residents were right in one sense but without commercial development we are at a loss.<BR/>You could have all the meeting you want but it doesn.t change the fact that we are and will be in trouble for some time to come because of your poor managerial skills.<BR/>The problems are right in front of your faces but you pretend to be blind.<BR/>The facilities in the north end of town cannot remain opened. They do not bring in any revenue.<BR/>Almost everyone gets the services on the arm.<BR/><BR/>You want to keep these place opened for what reason?<BR/>Just think if these places had good money coming into the town how much would you save the tax payers but we all know how you feel about the rest of us.<BR/>Well now the rest of us are feeling a big crunch from this recession .We too are loosing our jobs.What happens now.??<BR/>Where will the money come from for you to direct to Fairview?<BR/>Have you not heard how many jobs the city has lost and will loose .<BR/>That's where many of us work.<BR/>Will you help us the same way by giving us free police protection,free camps for our children so they wont be out on the streets, free meals,free programs for all of us including swimming.I don't think so.<BR/>You only want our hard earned money to go to one area and that is it,<BR/>Too bad for you and the rest of the board .<BR/>Election time is not too far away and I am quite sure payback will be sweet.<BR/>If Sheehan comes to his senses and recognizes that we are tired of paying all this money to those that have squandered it elsewhere<BR/>he may have a shot at reelection. Now the ball is in his court since watching yesterdays' work session with the representatives of the center we can see how they misuse all our tax dollars.<BR/>Just imagine Sonya asking to get a reduction in electricity from Con Edison for the center since the area is considered a high disadvantaged part of town.Is she kidding.<BR/>Paul step down ,you are no longer qualified to represent the residents of this town.<BR/>The more you try the many more mistakes you are making along the way.<BR/>We need a boss who is not one sided and one that treats all with equallity. <BR/>Sorry to say this but I for one voted for you everytime but this time my vote will be given to someone else.In my househld alone you will loose four votes.I have seriously thought of changing political parties because of the way this town has gone downward. <BR/>80TH MY FOOT.<BR/>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-70637420285632010082008-10-16T09:34:00.000-04:002008-10-16T09:34:00.000-04:00Dear Mr. Rosenberg -You failed to comment on the s...Dear Mr. Rosenberg -<BR/>You failed to comment on the substance of the post. <BR/>Would it not be cheaper to have a single Department of Public Works?<BR/>Would one Police Department be cheaper than seven? <BR/>Would one local government be cheaper than seven? <BR/>The answer, regardless of the number of voters or the amount of assessibles is a resounding, "Yes, it would be cheaper."<BR/>Simply because the villages, long ago, decided to duplicate services, does that mean the current population is stuck with a system designed to be inefficient?<BR/>If you respond that those inefficiencies are fine, then how can you possibly oppose Edgemont's bid to become a village?<BR/>If your opposition argument is based on the financial disaster which would befall other parts of the unincorporated area, you must then admit that recombining into a single service provider will substantially benefit the same area. Where is your sense of social justice? Should an historical accident, like the creation of a village in the 19th century, preclude realignment in the 21st? Remember, when the last village was incorporated in 1923 the law of the land was Plessy v. Ferguson. We have come, thank the Lord, a long way from there. Our community's approach should reflect Brown v. Board of Education, not Jim Crow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-55942615076133190402008-10-16T08:08:00.001-04:002008-10-16T08:08:00.001-04:00The last blog is not anonymous. it is from me.The last blog is not anonymous. it is from me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-52046702548582879712008-10-16T08:08:00.000-04:002008-10-16T08:08:00.000-04:00The last blog is not anonymous. it is from me.The last blog is not anonymous. it is from me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-14797602446935127912008-10-16T08:06:00.000-04:002008-10-16T08:06:00.000-04:00Dear Lawyer at 5:29 PM.You missed my point entirel...Dear Lawyer at 5:29 PM.<BR/><BR/>You missed my point entirely. I didn't write about Bernstein's brief or his constitutional arguments. I replied to the previous blogger who suggested that the villages become fully integrated into the town. In passing I also addressed his comment that the villages have more voters than incorporated, and it is a fact that the unincorporated area outvotes the villages. Check it with the Board of Elections, as I have done.<BR/><BR/>I did comment that the fact that the unincorporated area outvotes the villages comes out in the Bernstein litigation, and it does. You may have read Bernstein's btief, but not obviously other papers filed in the court. You also probably did not read the town's brief in opposition. And you certainly have not read the opposition brief that will shortly be filed by the mayors who have intervened in this appeal. When you do you will probably have a different slant on Bernstein's constitutional arguments (which, incidentally, do include an argument based on the false assertion that the villages outnumber the unincorporated area). Ask the person who gave you Bernstein's brief for copies of the other briefs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-88528733103228005732008-10-15T23:34:00.000-04:002008-10-15T23:34:00.000-04:0010/14 9:49PM. Which do you prefer on your sandwich...10/14 9:49PM. Which do you prefer on your sandwich, bread or mustard?<BR/><BR/>Dah! Ms. Lawrence HAS to come in because payroll requires TWO people.<BR/><BR/>As to the "promotion?" His UPGRADE was CSEA test earned, and he was capable enough to have scored in the TOP 3 in the county'<BR/><BR/>If you have any other superfluously supersilious remarks. give them/it some thought because although you are anonymous, your comments are still that of a moron studying hard to be an idiot with a feigned, unsuccessful attempt at humor.<BR/><BR/>Let's see, you're not pf, because he doesn't write like that (no self praise, even obliquely). And, you're not fs, because he's devoid of humor (even "gallows humor.)<BR/><BR/>So you must be some schmuk who goes to auctions, bids against himself and wonders why he overpays for everything he buys.<BR/><BR/>Good grief, 9:49, I laid out the a-r-i-t-h-m-a-t-i-c in a way even a 15-Watter like you could understand.But I guess arithmatic was not one of your favorites.<BR/><BR/>Maybe by next time, An, (since you take the liberty to call me Ed, I take the liberty to contract your name.)you'll have hired a math tutor to e-x-p-l-a-i-n the numbers to you, and you'll decide I am correct, and praise "Ceasar" not try to bury him...even in a lame way.<BR/><BR/>Your blog pal E.ed krausshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05884806213564738289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-79113159782070628362008-10-15T22:48:00.000-04:002008-10-15T22:48:00.000-04:00The center budget is full of crap.They have covere...The center budget is full of crap.<BR/>They have coveredup all there spending by having duplicat and triplicate services.<BR/>The children that attend the summer camp go for free at taxpayers expense.<BR/>Five bus drivers<BR/>One trip in particular to Conneticut cost the taxpayers ten thousand dollrs.<BR/>Since when did the town clerk have a say in the budgt making process.<BR/>She doen't care who pays for what so long as the children still have their freebees .<BR/>Did she join the conversation because the children are all from Fairview.<BR/>Boy one can see how people stick together to screw the public claiming that the children come from poor families.<BR/>No they do not come from poor families they come from Fairview.<BR/>Get the picture.<BR/>The person who was talking at the work session must be the person in charge {Whitehead} how can she give line by line figures of the budget knowing that she is the one that put her family to work with no show jobs for mega bucks.<BR/>How could the board listen to her describing what monies were needed <BR/>knowing that she is under investigation.<BR/>Another thing the gentleman at the far end stated that if programs are cut the Fairview you will be in trouble because there is nothing for them to do.<BR/>Please tell me not all the children are fortunate to go to summer camp and they are growing up the right way. Let the parents take care of their children the way we do and they will have the cream of the crop.<BR/>The problem is that they have been getting everything for free that they cannot get used to the fact that the taxpayers are ready to rebel<BR/>You have this center where no one pays their fair share so why are you punishing the other areas to pay for a failing institution.<BR/>They don't bring in any money to cover their expenses because they know that Paul will give them what they want.<BR/>Well Paul we have had it,<BR/><BR/> .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-27237920679503139602008-10-15T21:34:00.000-04:002008-10-15T21:34:00.000-04:00It stinks even more in the comptrollers office.It stinks even more in the comptrollers office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-10979479483851841982008-10-15T21:25:00.000-04:002008-10-15T21:25:00.000-04:00Listening to the work session toaday the center ha...Listening to the work session toaday the center has been stealing our money for some time.<BR/>They have duplicate and triple services .<BR/>They have five bus drivers.<BR/>They spen $10,000.00 of our money on a bus trip to conn. this past summer.<BR/>Goes to show you they have all these children not only swimming for free but also attending camp during the summer at our expense.<BR/>Could it be possible that no one on the board checked out the swervices granted ,who paid what and who didn't.<BR/>It seems to me that all the children are attending the camps for free.<BR/>Before any money is allocated to the center there should be an investigation as to why all these free service when we know and you know that Paul wants the Fairview children to receive everything for free.<BR/>At the PD budget hearing he was trying to say if people are poor they don't have to pay for EMS thank you chief in shutting him up. You cant charge some and not the other.<BR/>Paul ypur center charges the white folk but the others get everything for free.<BR/>Paul I do hope that you are starting to look for another job because it will be very hard for many of us to vote you in again.<BR/>Sheehan I do think that you had better check the center budget carefully.<BR/>It just did not sound kosher to me.<BR/>You did a good job in reading in between the lines but you have to do more.<BR/>Something smells at the center.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-34452079858784457502008-10-15T17:29:00.000-04:002008-10-15T17:29:00.000-04:00Dear Mr. Rosenberg:I'm one of the lawyers in uninc...Dear Mr. Rosenberg:<BR/><BR/>I'm one of the lawyers in unincorporated Greenburgh who's read Bernstein's brief to the Court of Appeals. His arguments about the constitutionality of the so-called Finneran Law do not turn on whether voters in the unincorporated area outnumber voters in the town's villages. Your suggestion that they do is a red herring.<BR/><BR/>Bernstein argues that Finneran is unconstitutional on its face because it requires unincorporated area residents to pay exclusively for the indebtedness the town incurs to buy town parks, without giving them the right to consent. He says that violates the state constitution. I understand that you and the town believe there is no such right to consent in the state constitution, but Bernstein says otherwise and that's something the Court of Appeals will have to decide. With all due respect, that decision will turn on what the constitution says, not on how many people in either the villages or the unincorporated area are registered to vote.<BR/><BR/>Bernstein also argues that the town's application of Finneran to the Taxter Ridge purchase was unconstitutional because it was unconstitutional for the town to depart from the terms of the Finneran law which require that unincorporated area taxpayers pay for town parks restricted to their use. I understand that you and the town disagree with that, but here too, that has nothing to do with how many people are registered to vote. It has to do with whether or not the state constitution requires the town to adhere to both prongs of Finneran.<BR/><BR/>I also have to take issue with your assertion that Town Law 60 says villages are not governed by towns. Town Law 60 says that villages are not governed by towns "except as otherwise provided by law." <BR/><BR/>That means that if state law says that parks that are open town-wide must be paid for town-wide, then village taxpayers must pay their share of the cost. If the Finneran Law is found to be unconstitutional, then the villages may be required by state law to pay their share of the cost of Greenburgh's parks.<BR/><BR/>I'm not signing my name to this because I do not want to get involved in a contest with anyone over the merits of Bernstein's case, and Bernstein certainly seems capable of arguing his case without any help from me. <BR/><BR/>I just thought it was important to set the record straight about what Bernstein is actually arguing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-16799923967267423212008-10-15T15:05:00.000-04:002008-10-15T15:05:00.000-04:00Sorry, I meant the anonymous 9:10 poster, not the ...Sorry, I meant the anonymous 9:10 poster, not the 9:33 poster.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-77761481075491073032008-10-15T15:04:00.000-04:002008-10-15T15:04:00.000-04:00The anonymous 9:33 AM poster is so wrong that a co...The anonymous 9:33 AM poster is so wrong that a comment is in order. In light of the postings about combining village departments with the town's departments, I will make the comment, even though it will probably inspire a new round of invective from those who are angry instead of knowledgeable.<BR/><BR/>You are right that the villages are part of the town but that is only partially relevant. The villages are part of the town because N. Y. law requires that a village be part of a town. However, villages are separate municipalities which are not governed by the Town Board (see Town Law section 60). Villages are governed under the N Y Village Law, and have their own governments. Villages provide municipal service to village residents, while the town government provides municipal services to the unincorporated area. There are a few minor exceptions, but that is the general way the local governments work. Yes, I know that some will bring in their anger about the parks, but that is something that the town did without asking the villages, and the town can undo it as well -- as they are required to do anyway under the Finneran Law.<BR/><BR/>It is true, as one blogger said, that the Village Officials Committee has suggested to the Town Board that there might be some savings to both the Town and the villages if there was some cooperative action, such as joint purchases, sharing some services to create greater efficiency, and the like. The Town has picked up on that, and it will benefit everybody.<BR/><BR/>But given the anger and divisiveness and the accusations by some town residents towards the villages, and indeed by sections of unincportated to other sections of unincorporated, the villages will look very carefully at anything which gives power of town departments over the villages, or "participating fully in town government." The town has lots of cleaning up to do, so don't hold your breath.<BR/><BR/>Finally, as you and everyone else will shortly learn from the Bernstein litigation, it is not true that the villages have a majority of the voters. In fact, the unincorporated area has more registered voters than the six villages combined and in every recent contested election there were more votes cast in the unincorporated area than in the six villages combined. If you want more interesting facts, there are more taxable parcels of real estate in the unincorporated area than in the six villages combined. Will that stop the false propaganda that the villages can outvote the unincorporated area? Not likely.<BR/><BR/>For those who care about facts, this posting should help.<BR/><BR/>Now I will sit back and wait for the accusations and insults.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com