tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post116200769575249443..comments2023-10-30T06:13:34.382-04:00Comments on Supervisor Feiner: Should the town cooperate with Ardsley in building affordable housing for village/town employees, volunteer firefighters, ambulance corp members?Paul Feinerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17087805120754057844noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162586116632783052006-11-03T15:35:00.000-05:002006-11-03T15:35:00.000-05:00I do not think that the only beneficiaries of affo...I do not think that the only beneficiaries of affordable housing should be employees of or volunteers to the village. Plenty of young people, elderly people, disabled people, and poor families need affordable housing. Providing a benefit for one small segment of our community smells of favoritism and corruption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162392924209325152006-11-01T09:55:00.000-05:002006-11-01T09:55:00.000-05:00and what does edgemont get -- no parks in edgemont...and what does edgemont get -- no parks in edgemont, no sidewalks <BR/><BR/>oh -- we get to pay for everyone elses<BR/><BR/>NO WAY.<BR/><BR/>FEINER MUST GO<BR/><BR/>GREENBURGH 7 DESERVES SUBSIDIES A LOT MOREAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162387825930385732006-11-01T08:30:00.000-05:002006-11-01T08:30:00.000-05:00Don't be selfish. We live in a community. Sometime...Don't be selfish. We live in a community. Sometimes, your neighborhood will get some benefits. Sometimes my neighborhood will get benefits. It's like being married. There is give and take. In the end everything averages out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162340109409947052006-10-31T19:15:00.000-05:002006-10-31T19:15:00.000-05:00Dear anon at 8:05 Your taxes will stay down if the...Dear anon at 8:05 <BR/><BR/>Your taxes will stay down if the subsized housing is provided.<BR/><BR/>My taxes go up if the town gives away the land.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162335575980967362006-10-31T17:59:00.000-05:002006-10-31T17:59:00.000-05:00The volunteer fire men (and women, I hope) really ...The volunteer fire men (and women, I hope) really care about us. They are are neighbors. We should do something for them. Yes to housing for volunteers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162319502856961892006-10-31T13:31:00.000-05:002006-10-31T13:31:00.000-05:00I don't want my taxes to go up. I live off of Joyc...I don't want my taxes to go up. I live off of Joyce Road. A paid fire dept would be more expensive. I say yes to affordable housing if it means that I won't have to pay for a paid fire department.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162256987939484412006-10-30T20:09:00.000-05:002006-10-30T20:09:00.000-05:00Why doesn't someone clean up the fire district bou...Why doesn't someone clean up the fire district boundaries? They seem like they were laid out decades ago.<BR/><BR/>Six village boundaries, six fire district boundaries, period. The only exceptions would be for isolated little sections of Unincorporated Greenburgh that can only be accessed through a village, such as Chauncey (which should have already been annexxed on to Ardsley anyway). In fact, the six village fire departments might be more cost efficient for taxpayers and less strain on the volunteers if they merged into three departments.<BR/><BR/>Actually, has anyone considered just merging the various fire departments in Unincorporated Greenburgh into one centralized municipal Greenburgh Fire Department. That would also be very cost efficient for taxpayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162256723161917682006-10-30T20:05:00.000-05:002006-10-30T20:05:00.000-05:00Approving affordable housing for Ardsley volunteer...Approving affordable housing for Ardsley volunteer firefighters is a good idea. I live in unincorporated Greenburgh and appreciate the fact that my taxes are not as high as they could be because I don't have to pay for a paid fire chief, paid captains, paid Lieutenants, paid firefighters. The all volunteer firefighter does a great job protecting me and my family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162249234326707602006-10-30T18:00:00.000-05:002006-10-30T18:00:00.000-05:00Dear Ardslyean and Michael (who probably knows),Th...Dear Ardslyean and Michael (who probably knows),<BR/><BR/>The boundaries of the Ardsly Engine Company are not contiguous with the Village --- big deal. Some people in Greenburgh live in the fire district, some do not. Those that do are asking those that do not to subsidize their district. That is not fair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162242982363208872006-10-30T16:16:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:16:00.000-05:00Dear Anon: Please read the earlier posts esp by Mr...Dear Anon: Please read the earlier posts esp by Mr. Kolesar. The Ardsley Fire Engine Company services large parts of unincorporated Greenburgh. If you had to pay the real cost of this by hiring firemen (who are of course often married to women), and paying for all the customary benefits they get, it would cost you millions. As it is you are paying about 10% of the true cost. Ardsley volunteers are picking up the balance of the 90%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162239942383334712006-10-30T15:25:00.000-05:002006-10-30T15:25:00.000-05:00Last I checked, most firemen are men and white.The...Last I checked, most firemen are men and white.<BR/><BR/>There are many other valuable people in our community.<BR/><BR/>This is the biggest boondoggle -- Ardsly should just start paying firemen instead of asking greenburgh for the landAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162238584350361942006-10-30T15:03:00.000-05:002006-10-30T15:03:00.000-05:00Race and gender? Last time i checked fires do not ...Race and gender? Last time i checked fires do not discriminate along these lines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162236659567382192006-10-30T14:30:00.000-05:002006-10-30T14:30:00.000-05:00I think as the concept developes we all will want ...I think as the concept developes we all will want to know the answer to the questions BEFORE ANY LAND IS GIVEN AWAY regarding <BR/><BR/>1. What is the pool of potential tenants?<BR/><BR/>2. From what town, village do they come -- total numbers and proportions, not just general all over the town statements.<BR/><BR/>3. Race and gender of potential tenants?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162232596890929562006-10-30T13:23:00.000-05:002006-10-30T13:23:00.000-05:00The Glenville Fire Dept has a volunteer fire dept ...The Glenville Fire Dept has a volunteer fire dept that works with the paid fire dept. It is not all white. <BR/>The affordable housing for the waterwheel property is in the concept stages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162217879020107182006-10-30T09:17:00.000-05:002006-10-30T09:17:00.000-05:00Dear Anon 1. I thought most of Edgemont was in Gl...Dear Anon <BR/><BR/>1. I thought most of Edgemont was in Glenville, which is a Fire District which has paid firefighters, not volunteers. Is this person you are referring to someone with an honorary title?<BR/><BR/>2. Need to know total break down of people who would be eligible for housing, by residence etc.<BR/><BR/>one person does not make this right. It stinks -- and everyone knows it -- it is benefits for white menAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162183119431407162006-10-29T23:38:00.000-05:002006-10-29T23:38:00.000-05:00Are you aware that one of the officers of the volu...Are you aware that one of the officers of the volunteer firefighters serving Edgemont is an african american?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162168452003075442006-10-29T19:34:00.000-05:002006-10-29T19:34:00.000-05:00Dear Anon,You think I am disgusting -- you miss my...Dear Anon,<BR/><BR/>You think I am disgusting -- you miss my point. Providing subsidized housing only to volunteer firemen (likely white males) is, in IMHO, unacceptable.<BR/><BR/>I think this is wrong wrong wrongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162161531278010442006-10-29T17:38:00.000-05:002006-10-29T17:38:00.000-05:00Dear Anon:Your comments are disgusting. Greenburgh...Dear Anon:<BR/>Your comments are disgusting. Greenburgh is a diverse community. Our community welcomes people of all ethnic backgrounds. Affordable housing for volunteers and municipal employees addresses a need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162157297134016072006-10-29T16:28:00.000-05:002006-10-29T16:28:00.000-05:00Is subsidized housing for the Fire Fighters more a...Is subsidized housing for the Fire Fighters more acceptable because they are all, or almost all, white men. No blacks, hispanics or single mothers.<BR/><BR/>And who decides who gets to be a volunteer fire fighter?<BR/><BR/>My guess is that their are strength requirements that rule out women. and size requirements may eliminate many hispanics. <BR/><BR/>We all value the work of volunteer firemen, but there are many,many issues with giving them preferences for subsidized housing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162142375921254702006-10-29T12:19:00.000-05:002006-10-29T12:19:00.000-05:00anon at 12.23these "volunteers get pensions"???I k...anon at 12.23<BR/><BR/>these "volunteers get pensions"???<BR/><BR/>I knew they were eligible for membership at Veterans. <BR/><BR/>enough is enough<BR/><BR/>if ardsley wants to call them volunteers -- they can call them whatever they want. <BR/><BR/>In this day and age, almost every house hold I know has to have both parents working. So if one member "volunteers" and in exchange gets a pension, subsidzied hosuing and subsidized recreation, it doesnt take a lot for the other member. This is absurd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162138989606778832006-10-29T11:23:00.000-05:002006-10-29T11:23:00.000-05:00I think that with the money spent on housing subsi...I think that with the money spent on housing subsidies, pensions and other perks for the volunteers, that a career fire department could be funded for all the villages combined, and then we have guarenteed response times with professional firefighters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162134657850296672006-10-29T10:10:00.000-05:002006-10-29T10:10:00.000-05:00Dear Michael,The fire districts and school distric...Dear Michael,<BR/><BR/>The fire districts and school districts have their own boundaries. That they are not coterminus with the village is somewhat difficult at times, as others have noted. That being said, you want the property for a use which will not beneift most of Greenburgh. That is unacceptable. <BR/><BR/>Do you think that the fire district and the school disctict have the right to expel parts of their respective districts? I do not think so. So your comments that if the unincorporated part of Greenburgh within the Fire District were expelled are irrelevant. If the Fire District has to provide stipends for volunteers, or has to buy land for housing, that is a cost of the Fire District.<BR/><BR/>You are correct, that most of Greenburgh has paid fire fighters and has higher costs. So what you are now proposing is that in addition to our higher costs we should subsidize your lower costs. You may be able to get Feiner to agree to that, but it isnt right, and we will fight it tooth and nail. You may even build the housing and find that in the end it will be open to all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162129740025502452006-10-29T08:49:00.000-05:002006-10-29T08:49:00.000-05:00I will repeat in part a comment posted in response...I will repeat in part a comment posted in response to another topic elsewhere on this blog site.<BR/><BR/>First, this is not in my view just about Ardsley. Volunteer firfighters provide fire protection for Hastings, Dobbs Ferry, Irvington, Tarrytown, Ardsley and Elmsford. In addition, each of these areas, with the possible exception of Dobbs Ferry, also provide substantial fire protection services to unincorporated Greenburgh. In the case of the two fire districts served by the Ardsley Engine Company, 32% of the assessed values lie in unincorporated Greenburgh. These two areas pay only about 25% of the rate that the Greenville, Hartsdale and Fairview fire districts charge. Question 1 should all areas of unincorporated Greenburgh pay a uniform rate to the respective Villages? If so, in the case of Ardsley, the Village would receive an additional $900,000 annually. With that additional money, the Village could buy the named property in a heart beat and build whatever it needed. The same situation impacts the other Villages, although I am not knowledgeable about the financial impact. The Villages and their volunteers are the people who are subsidizing significant portions of unincorporated Greenburgh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162106731022306252006-10-29T02:25:00.000-05:002006-10-29T02:25:00.000-05:00I'm not sure how many volunteer firefighters and E...I'm not sure how many volunteer firefighters and EMTs there are in the area, but I do know that some are well-off and don't need any subsidized housing. That said, I wasn't trying to "scare" people. All I'm saying is that if we have volunteer firefighters and EMTs who have low incomes, then it might be nice to offer them affordable housing opportunities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33594888.post-1162096301287604022006-10-29T00:31:00.000-04:002006-10-29T00:31:00.000-04:00Dear Anon 10:51:If the town turns foreclosed prope...Dear Anon 10:51:<BR/>If the town turns foreclosed property at the waterwheel into affordable housing it will not be for the benefit of Ardsley. IT will be for the benefit of people who get to live in the homes. Who are they? They are your children's teachers. They are neighbors who would wake up at 2 AM to fight a fire in your home. They are police officers who would risk their lives for you if you were ever in danger. Don't make this political. It ain't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com