U.S. News & World Report has entered the world of high school rankings, releasing its first list of "America's Best High Schools."
Two School districts in Greenburgh made US NEWS top 100 schools...
#28: Edgemont Jr./Sr. High School, Greenburgh
#91: Irvington High School, Irvington
Congratulations!
Friday, November 30, 2007
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Fun!
Ardsley does not participate in this gimmick to sell magazines.
*stands up and and gives wild applause*
Edgemont comes in #1 for least amount of minorities!!!
Ties for 1st place with Scarsdale on 0% disadvantage students! YAY!
*blows nose & wipes tears* I'm so verklempt.....
Dear 4:11,
ILMAO!
How about Woodlands?
This isn't a participation thing that Ardsley could have opted out of. They just didn't make the cut.
The selection methodology:
1) Attains performance levels that exceed statistical expectations given the school's relative level of student poverty, as measured by state accountability test scores for all the school's students in the core subjects of reading and math;
2) Achieves proficiency rates on state tests for their least advantaged student groups (e.g., black, Hispanic, and economically disadvantaged students) that exceed state averages; and
3) Prepares its students for college, as measured by student participation in and performance on Advanced Placement (AP) tests, which are administered by the College Board.
#1 and #2 are public info, and the College Board provides the data for #3.
https://www.nystart.gov/publicweb/
Rankings of area schools:
#20 Bronx Science
#22 Staten Island Tech
#28 Edgemont
#29 Horace Greeley
#39 Brooklyn Tech
#45 Townsend Harris (Queens)
#52 Rye
#55 Scarsdale
#75 Blind Brook
#91 Irvington
Also ranked high, but not in top 100:
Briarcliff
Byram Hills
Saunders (Yonkers)
Yonkers
(plus dozens of others in Fairfield, Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, Manhattan)
(no schools in Putnam, Rockland, or Dutchess ranked high enough to be noted)
Dear 4:17PM on 11/30
Edgemont has a significant population of minorities - unless you consider African-Americans the only minority worthy of attention.
Please get your facts straight.
Sure look at the tax structure for these schools.
THey are killing us.
With the money that is paid in taxes both these schools should have come in first and second.
Wow Wee Irvington and Edgemont made this famous list.
Why not first and second.
Dear 9;43,
Taken straight from US News & World Report:
Edgemont Junior-Senior High School (Top 100, #28)
Demographic Data
Enrollment 936
Minority Enrollment (% of total) 1.9%
Disadvantaged Student Enrollment (% of total) 0.0%
If this information is wrong I suggest you contacted them for a correction.
Again, their definition of minority. Edgemont probably has more asain americans as a % than you give credit for. Why are thy not minorities.
And Edgemont has many resources for children from families where English is not the first language.
The foulest thing is that the Town of Greenburgh's Supervisor who has not the slightest respect for education has the brass balls to suggest the independent schools districts recognized by US News and World Report somehow received some benefit from him.
And Edgemont has many resources for children from families where English is not the first language.
awwwwwww......how nice of you!
Edgemont here Edgemont there is that all we have to hear about. It should have bee no.1 with all the monies that go into this system.
After this rating I would like to see what the anticipated budget will be.
Here we are complaing about the town budget but no one seems to care about the school and fire budgets.
Well it's about time we carefully look into this budget matter more closely rather than to listen to the the ones asking for the raise.
Dear 9:43,
"Edgemont has a significant population of minorities".
Wouldn't it be so easy just to list the minorities and how many members from each category?
"Significant population" sounds so much like newspeak.
Hal, your ignorance is showing. Under the Buckley Amendment to the Federal Educational Records Privacy Act, the release of the numbers by race, gender, sexual preference or country of national origin is prohibited.
Only statistical compliations are permitted - and unfortunately the Edgemont Superintendant's Office, which is happy to release those stats, is closed for the weekend.
Greenville, Westchester County, New York
As of the censusGR2 of 2000, there were 8,648 people, 3,368 households, and 2,377 families residing in the CDP. The population density was 1,143.5/km² (2,964.1/mi²). There were 3,490 housing units at an average density of 461.5/km² (1,196.2/mi²). The racial makeup of the CDP was 75.71% White, 2.41% African American, 0.07% Native American, 19.75% Asian, 0.01% Pacific Islander, 0.59% from other races, and 1.47% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 4.22% of the population.
There were 3,368 households out of which 34.7% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 62.3% were married couples living together, 6.4% had a female householder with no husband present, and 29.4% were non-families. 26.0% of all households were made up of individuals and 9.0% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.53 and the average family size was 3.08.
In the CDP the population was spread out with 25.1% under the age of 18, 3.8% from 18 to 24, 28.6% from 25 to 44, 28.2% from 45 to 64, and 14.3% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 41 years. For every 100 females there were 89.3 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 83.8 males.
The median income for a household in the CDP was $93,421, and the median income for a family was $133,108. Males had a median income of $89,226 versus $50,155 for females. The per capita income for the CDP was $61,785. About 1.2% of families and 2.3% of the population were below the poverty line, including 1.7% of those under age 18 and 2.1% of those age 65 or over.
What is a minority? (American, stats, racism, wisdom, Hispanic)
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Very good question, and one that's going to necessitate some re-adjusting in a very few years. It's comforting to think that a "minority" is anyone who isn't "white"-- and has thus been the victim of our brutal American culture. But that won't "cut it" much longer. California no longer has a numerical majority of ANY ethnic group...and in a few decades (or less) will have a Hispanic majority. Will whites then become a protected minority? Already Asians are the "inconvenient" minority--a non-white group that we WISH was needy-but which does so exceedingly well in so many ways that it makes it very hard to see them as anyone's "victim". Makes it very awkward to argue about prejudice and white racism. Those Asians certainly upset the "conventional wisdom" about the need for affirmative action, etc.
"Some residents of Asian descent balk at being considered a minority at all, because they believe the term "minority" carries an implication of being a member of a disadvantaged group.
"One big issue we deal with is our cultural identity," said Jaya Saxena, former president of UNC's Asian-American Law Students Association. "We're considered one of the minority student groups, but a lot of Asian students don't feel like part of a minority community. There are number of reasons for that. Most of us are from middle-class families. Many of us have had wonderful opportunities, and we're in a prestigious graduate school. For some people in that situation, it's hard to identify with what they consider the minority community"
Interesting comments.
Sure, Asian-Americans are in a numerical minority. Jews are the smallest in number, and therefore the most significant minority in numerical terms. But we don't think of these groups as minorities, except that in Edgemont Asian-Americans are considered minorities for school purposes.
Let us recognize that by "minorities" we mean groups who ar disadvantaged because of their ethnic identity -- primarily African-Americans and Hispanic-Americans. Tey sure are underrepresented, even absent, from Edgemont schools. That is not a criticism, because schools reflect the population. But let's not play with words.
who is the we??
Who are you to define?
If coming from a family where english is not the primary langauge is a defining factor, then whatever the other language is should not matter.
It appears that the "we & who" in this case is the publication & the Edgemont community.
Us News & World Reports does not define Asians in Edgemont as a minority.
Edgemont feels the need to defend by challenging with their definition of minority.
I could be wrong though.
"definition of minority"
An individual school district has no say as to who is classified as a minority. Student X is classified the same no matter what school district in NYS h/she attends.
Goes to show everyone how stupid the people who try to defend Edgemont are since they only classify blacks and hispanics as the minority.
Boy do they have a lot to learn.
Why is Edgemont on top? Because the folks who live there are highly educated and encourage (push?) their kids to learn. The kids benefit from their genes and from the parental push.
These kids would do well in any school that is trouble-free.
Put another way, it isn't the high-priced programs that make the edgemont schools so good. it is the qualities of the educated and motivated residents, and the fortunate children who ingerit their genes.
Just attending those schools doesn't guarantee success or Ivy League colleges. Indeed, the less endowed kids who go to these schools suffer from feelings of inferiority.
Ultimately, it is the parents who make for great education.
"since they only classify blacks and hispanics as the minority"
The State of New York is responsible for the classifications, not the school districts.
Your jealousy is showing.
How about a few nasty remarks about Irvington? Or are you afraid the Villagers will take away even more of your entitlements? Edgemont and Fairview are equally reviled by our upper crust Village residents - and the villages are more than half the votes in Town. Stop looking at Edgemont as the enemy and start understanding just a little more about what it means when the Town Supervisor and his hand-picked cronies talk about a "Villages first" policy.
Irvington
Enrollment 590
Minority Enrollment (% of total) 7.2%
and Paul does his best to stop anyone esle from moving into Irvington sd, by purcahsing taxter ridge
I guess some of the full-time housekeepers in Irvington have school age children.
12:37!!
You're showing you're true Edgemont colors! get a grip! Yor're not supposed to be so obvious! Takes all of the fun out of it for the rest of us.
Paul, please lets close GC7 and distribute the children to the better school districts. Thats a win, win situation.
Thank God it isn't up to the Supervisor to close schools - or to decide how the school district spends its money.
New York State's founding fathers recognized the inevitable temptation for politicians to pander to voters by reducing services to non-voters, and protected schools by removing them from the tender ministrations of local politicos. In the five big cities where this isn't true, one need only to look to find truly awful excuses for public education.
Edgemont isn't quite as rich as Irvington, so it has fewer households with live-in help. With fewer live-in helpers, there are fewer disadvantaged youth in the schools. Fewer disadvantaged youth in the schools results in higher placements in meaningless surveys.
O boy because we are in the 100 we can see our school taxes going way up the next time.
With the school taxes that we py we should have been in first place or within the top ten.
From todays JN.
Smalls will meet the public at 8 p.m. Dec. 17 in the Woodlands High School cafeteria. He said the district needs to "blow its own horn" so more people know about its successes.
I encourage all of you have expressed dissatisfaction with Greenburgh schools to show up. I think the district has to make some real change, not just PR. I think if, as the JN indicates one concern should be the exodus of middle classs students after elemenatary school, the superindent has to deal with that.
exodus after elementary school? try exodus after 1st grade (when the students leave Jackson)- that is, if they are sent there in the first place.
I think someone has to show courage and ask Smalls flat out, is he committed to providing an education to students on a color blind basis. The Supreme Court has said this is what should be done. We should go make Bailey and Highview neighborhood based elemenatary schools. K-6.
The residents of cantral seven will never be satisfied with whomever they get for their school system.
Get rid of your board and put younger people in their positions.
The people that you have on the board have been there too long .
Give this man a chance if he does't work out show him the door.
He seems quite capable to serve in that position.
Smalls lots of luck.
Is it true that teachers living outside the Edgemont School District have the opportunity to allow there children to attend EHS free of charge. Maybe this should stop or the teacher should have to pay into the system. This might lower our taxes depending on the number of outside students.
This was a concern that many residents had when the school budget came up
I do not know if the practice of teachers children who live outside the district attend the school.
Virtually every SD I know allows teachers children to enroll. I beleive it is int he contract. I think it encourages the teachers to bond more with the parents.
I WANT TO START TROUBLE.LETS COMBINE WOODLANDS,EDGEMONT, ARDSLEY,IRVINGTON. BUILD ONE HUGE HIGH SCHOOL AND SAVE TAX PAYERS MONEY,LETS CUT THE CR-P.IT SHUOLD BE CALLED GREENBURGH HIGH SCHOOL. EDGEMONT IS PISSED BECAUSE THEY ARE PART OF GREENBURGH AND NOT SCARSDALE.
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