Thursday, October 04, 2007

HALLOWEEN IDEA----CLOSE LONGVIEW AVE FOR BLOCK PARTY IN EDGEMONT

Over the years there has been lots of mischief of Longview Ave during halloween. The police have stepped up the presence by increasing patrols. A suggestion has been made to close the street, have a neighborhood block party which would encourage family fun and discourage mischief. What do you think?
Are there any other streets where we could do the same thing?

35 comments:

Local Resident said...

How exactly do you propose to limit attendance to residents of the impacted blocks?
In the past, both regular and auxiliary police have been put in potentially confrontational situations with "visitors" on Halloween - and they have wisely chosen not to press the issue.
Announcing a "block party" is like telling anyone and everyone to come. Isn't that exactly what Chief Kapica warns parents about letting their teenage children do?

Anonymous said...

A great way to keep the youngsters out of trouble.
Should have one street closed in each area where the police had some problems last year.

Anonymous said...

Could 5:53 be none other than Edgemont Jim?????

theKman said...

We have had outsiders "bus" their kids and friends to our area for Halloween for the past few years. As someone already blogged, we could end up with 3x as many visitors. We would also need to set up additional lighting...block party from 7pm - 10pm ? The following day is a work day for many, so planning would be a bit difficult for many neighbors here.

Susan said...

I understand the concerns about announcing a party. Maybe we should stick with my original suggestion -- simply set up roadblocks at Longview and Highland and other points of entry for the ABC streets allowing only local residents in. This will prevent drive-ins from neighboring communities, and allow the streets to be safer for younger kids. It is unfortunate that not only has property been damaged, but younger children have been injured by being pelted with eggs from speeding cars.

Anonymous said...

Paul, a few questions. Would the additional police overtime be ok and would this be emergecy spending? I guess it would be ok because this is a good political gimmick.

Anonymous said...

This idea could be done in the early evening - at no additional cost to the taxpayers. It could be a fun community happening --6 PM to 8:30 PM. Why not try it?

Anonymous said...

safe, fun, family. a winning idea.

the real halloween said...

juettner's record on the town baord

feiner's 9-11 wall in front of presser park

barnes the republican

Jim Lasser said...

Dear Anonymous at 9:21 -
While the comments at 5:53 are, in my opinion, worthy of consideration, I didn't make them. I am committed to signing my name each and every time I add a comment - which is more than can be said for you.
As the duly elected President of the Longview Association, I have attempted to make my members aware of the idea being floated, and have asked them to contact the Longview officers and/or the appropriate Town officials to express their opinions.
Once we have a sense of the community's interests and concerns, we will communicate with the Town officials involved.
(Why contact the civic association rather than the Town directly? Those of you who blog anonymously frequently cite a fear of retribution if you used your real name; you should be very sympathetic to those who choose to express their opinions through their local civic association rather than directly.)

hal samis said...

Dear Jim,

Again we agree to disagree.

As you know I don't hold dearly with those who write on this blog under the cover of anonymous. Yet that I would rather read these comments than no comments.

However, writing on the blog with your name and having no control over how these comments can be used, misused, edited or dispatched is not quite the same as a citizen contacting the Police Department or any other function of the Town government directly.

I see no problem with either citizens speaking to the proper authorities or, if they choose, speaking through a civic association.

However, when there is little time remaining for implementation, perhaps a small group (civic association) would be the best apparatus to plan, perfect, promote and produce such an event.

Anonymous said...

JIM!!!!
Since when do you consider the opinions of others in your area.
You're third in line when it comes to mighter than thou.
First Bernstein,McNally and then you.
You old fuddy duddies never think of the young ones,it's a fun time and it should be a safe one.
You're making a federal case out of the proposal.
Maybe you should call in the county and governers offices for their take on this matter.

Anonymous said...

O boy JIM!!!
You are the duly elected president of the longview association.
So what.the title and $1.50 may get you on a bus.

Jim Lasser said...

Dear Anonymous Critics -
I will extend to you the same invitation the Longview Association extends every year to the Supervisor:
You are cordially invited to join our community for an evening of amusement and youthful exuberence on October 31st. The festivities begin at 4:30PM and are expected to last until about 10PM.
Recommended attire includes a disposable raincoat.

Anonymous said...

Is 12:33 a Husker whose son was involved in a confrontation with GPD on Longview and Glendale one Halloween a couple of years ago? Be nice and keep your creature on a short leash.

Anonymous said...

The problems in Edgemont on Halloween night are entirely caused by kids from Edgemont. There were no outsiders that came to the area and caused problems. In some years the problems were actully caused by adults trying to take matters into their own hands.

Anonymous said...

2:19 my child was never in trouble because I have no children.
I find it entertaining when children appear at my door for treats.
By the way I do live on Longview.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Mr.Supervisor for announcing there will be block parties in neighborhoods all over Greenburgh - on WCBS News Radio 880
Is it fair to assume you will be letting neighborhoods know that you have chosen them as hosts - or will it be a surprise you reveal when it is too late to do adequate planning?
Greenburgh needs a Supervisor who can not only dream up good ideas, but has the common sense and discipline to structure their implementation. Learn to stop and think before running your mouth.

Anonymous said...

I guess this really is an emergency expenditure. Paul are yous going to authorize all the overtime for the police and recreation staff?

Anonymous said...

Why not go over to the Sprain Valley Nursing Home with Town buses? You can tell them you're taking them to a party - just like on Election Day. Gently remind them there is just one little thing to do before they can have their cake and ice cream. Then put them out in the neighborhoods to act as auxiliary police.

Anonymous said...

Heard the WCBS radio report. Makes Greenburgh seem fun, creative, a place people will want to move to. Good ideas are good for property values.

Anonymous said...

1:08 will any member of your family be there to be picked up.
Boy do you have a sick mind

Anonymous said...

1:08 was merely suggesting the Supervisor employ the same strategy to hire auxiliary cops that he has used over the years to garner additional votes for himself when his candidacy is in trouble in Edgemont -

Anonymous said...

The town does not pay auxiliary cops. They are volunteers. Sorry, 5:42.

Anonymous said...

Aux cops are not effective in controlling disorderly crowds. Paul will need to police these events with additional police officers.

Jim Lasser said...

I don't think it was Paul's intention to provide any Town services for these proposed events. I believe he wanted the neighborhoods to plan, produce and police and clean up after the parties on a volunteer basis - with the Town's involvement limited solely to providing the necessary resolutions to close certain streets to traffic.
If his intentions were/are otherwise, I hope he will immediately convey his thinking to all - perhaps by outlining his thoughts and the resources he can/will make available here on his blog.

Paul Feiner said...

Jim is correct. I feel that this should be organized by the civic groups. Neighborhood groups should work with the police dept, locating suitable streets. This suggestion could make Halloween a more enjoyable and safer experience for adults and young people.

Anonymous said...

I don't see Lasser and LCA coming forward with a plan -
How about "Susan" and Anonymous on 10/ at 3:33 stepping into the vacuum?
We need a plan to close Longivew to outsiders, police that closing, plan a block party for 150 kids, provide refreshments, light the area to a safe level, devise safe and interesting games and then clean up afterwards. All this without using Town resources or violating the law...oh, and we need it by three weeks from tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Who is Feiner kidding - this was another of his publicity-minded brain farts.

Anonymous said...

excuse me 8:41
This idea was not proposed by Feiner.
It happened to be one of the residents of that area.
It was put on the blog to get some input from other residents.

Susan said...

Wow -- didn't think this would be so controversial. Nor did I envision the bitter, personally-directed and off-topic recriminations that my civic-minded suggestion generated. I have not been on this blog for a few days because I have a life (job, family, etc.) I come back and find there has already been a virtual shaving-cream, egg and toilet paper fight all over the blog. These are my neighbors?????

I would of course defer to Sgt. Kapica in terms of the safety of the community because this was my main concern in suggesting the roadblocks.

Last year's increased patrols seemed somewhat effective in that this was the first year in the last five years that our property on Glendale was not damaged (in the past decade, we have had windows broken by eggs on both the house and our vehicles, always after 9 pm, by eggs thrown from vehicles that sped off to upper Glendale).

I am also concerned about the thongs of people from outside the neighborhood who drive in, park on and cruise the narrow streets in cars amid the hundreds of children in costume with faces obscured by masks etc.

I have kept count, and for the last three years I have handed out more than eight hundred pieces of candy on Halloween (at one package per kid). At points in the peak time of evening, I have literally had smaller children pushed into the bushes off my front walkway by older kids jockeying for position at the door.

My goal is to reduce the number of vehicles entering the neighborhood and thereby reduce the number of drive-in out-of-town "visitors" and make the streets safer for the local kids. If Officer Kapica feels he can do a better job protecting our children and property without turning vehicles away, that is his judgment call to make.

Thanks, Susan

Anonymous said...

Susan you tried to do a good job. It's hard to believe that some of the residents don't seem to get what your point was.
This is the problem in the Edgemont area.
When things go wrong they complain like hell.
Parents today want to be left alone when it comes to doing things with their children.
You were trying to keep the youngsters safe and peoples property undamaged .
If it does't work out you could only say that you tried.
Thank you whatever happens happens.

Anonymous said...

Have Jim Lasser's civic association pay to seed the clouds. A good heavy rain will keep the rowdy little Edgemonters indoors!!!!!

Susan said...

Believe me, whoever suggested the rain, I pray for it every year!

Thank you, Mr. and Ms. Anonymous(s) one and all, for reading and considering, my suggestion.

Peace--

Anonymous said...

We never get any trick or treaters on Woods End Road.